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	<title>Comments on: Why I was disappointed with Pune Blogcamp 2</title>
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		<title>By: Aditto</title>
		<link>http://dhananjay.nene.in/2009/06/why-i-was-disappointed-with-pune-blogcamp-2/comment-page-1/#comment-1160</link>
		<dc:creator>Aditto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Aug 2009 09:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was very disappointing to attend the Blogcamp, and if future Blogcamps would be arranged where people talk of SEO and marketing and money, I would rather stay away.
Blogging for me and for most people who want to start blogging is all a personal affair, they want to write, they want to express themselves...

I think SEO blogtalks belong to different conferences.

Categorization should have been made!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was very disappointing to attend the Blogcamp, and if future Blogcamps would be arranged where people talk of SEO and marketing and money, I would rather stay away.<br />
Blogging for me and for most people who want to start blogging is all a personal affair, they want to write, they want to express themselves&#8230;</p>
<p>I think SEO blogtalks belong to different conferences.</p>
<p>Categorization should have been made!</p>
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		<title>By: #BlogCampPune 2 &#8211; Late Reaction :P &#124; Annkur</title>
		<link>http://dhananjay.nene.in/2009/06/why-i-was-disappointed-with-pune-blogcamp-2/comment-page-1/#comment-445</link>
		<dc:creator>#BlogCampPune 2 &#8211; Late Reaction :P &#124; Annkur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 09:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Why Dhananjay was disappointed [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Annkur</title>
		<link>http://dhananjay.nene.in/2009/06/why-i-was-disappointed-with-pune-blogcamp-2/comment-page-1/#comment-444</link>
		<dc:creator>Annkur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 09:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree that a lot of Marketing and commercial aspect comes in. But personally I came with a target to promote a couple of other things aswell:

1. Blogger Ethics
2. Passion that drives a blogger, money second
3. Offline connect with the real world for bloggers

As for the entire event, I personally like the structured unconferences like Startup Saturdays which has fixed agenda yet encourages a lot of discussions.

 (Ps: I volunteer for SS, but mentioning here cos I really like the concept)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree that a lot of Marketing and commercial aspect comes in. But personally I came with a target to promote a couple of other things aswell:</p>
<p>1. Blogger Ethics<br />
2. Passion that drives a blogger, money second<br />
3. Offline connect with the real world for bloggers</p>
<p>As for the entire event, I personally like the structured unconferences like Startup Saturdays which has fixed agenda yet encourages a lot of discussions.</p>
<p> (Ps: I volunteer for SS, but mentioning here cos I really like the concept)</p>
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		<title>By: Pune Blog Camp 2: Reflections &#171; An Unquiet Mind</title>
		<link>http://dhananjay.nene.in/2009/06/why-i-was-disappointed-with-pune-blogcamp-2/comment-page-1/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator>Pune Blog Camp 2: Reflections &#171; An Unquiet Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 15:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There was an interesting discussion going on even before the blog camp in the comments to Navin Kabra’s PuneTech Why You Should Attend Pune Blog Camp post. At the other end of the spectrum, post-event, the insights from the camp led to Dhananjay Nene’s Why I was disappointed with Pune Blog Camp 2. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There was an interesting discussion going on even before the blog camp in the comments to Navin Kabra’s PuneTech Why You Should Attend Pune Blog Camp post. At the other end of the spectrum, post-event, the insights from the camp led to Dhananjay Nene’s Why I was disappointed with Pune Blog Camp 2. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gaurav Pant</title>
		<link>http://dhananjay.nene.in/2009/06/why-i-was-disappointed-with-pune-blogcamp-2/comment-page-1/#comment-425</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaurav Pant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 09:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi
After reading your article, I thought i would comment some of the issues, but people have already done so.
BTW a very nicely written down stuff, as it should be on the net :), without hurting anyone ;)
I totally agree with the point that the venue was not perfect for this kind of event.  Initially when it was announced that the bar camp would be @ SCIT I was looking forward to that long drive. The reason to shift the venue to this place so that more people will attend  does not holds, because I remember the last bar camp had more attendees than this time.
Most of the feeling is mutual.
regards
Gaurav.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br />
After reading your article, I thought i would comment some of the issues, but people have already done so.<br />
BTW a very nicely written down stuff, as it should be on the net <img src='http://dhananjay.nene.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> , without hurting anyone <img src='http://dhananjay.nene.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I totally agree with the point that the venue was not perfect for this kind of event.  Initially when it was announced that the bar camp would be @ SCIT I was looking forward to that long drive. The reason to shift the venue to this place so that more people will attend  does not holds, because I remember the last bar camp had more attendees than this time.<br />
Most of the feeling is mutual.<br />
regards<br />
Gaurav.</p>
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		<title>By: Anant Shrivastava</title>
		<link>http://dhananjay.nene.in/2009/06/why-i-was-disappointed-with-pune-blogcamp-2/comment-page-1/#comment-424</link>
		<dc:creator>Anant Shrivastava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joining the discussion again, besides what ever has happened has happened.

I would like to see next blogcamp with more focus on 

1. Talk on Legal issues involved with blogging in india.
2. How to write quality content.
3. Talks on blog platforms other then wordpress and blogger / blogspot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joining the discussion again, besides what ever has happened has happened.</p>
<p>I would like to see next blogcamp with more focus on </p>
<p>1. Talk on Legal issues involved with blogging in india.<br />
2. How to write quality content.<br />
3. Talks on blog platforms other then wordpress and blogger / blogspot.</p>
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		<title>By: Sushrut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sushrut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Few thoughts -

1. People are using blog/bar camps as a way of branding themselves or there companies. This dilutes the content. Having attended camps in multiple cities I see this happening all the time. Speakers are speaking just too much about themselves or their blogs/companies rather than focusing on topic. Eg - Sandy&#039;s talk was excellent, rich in content, at least perception I get from twitter streams about it. Focus should be on delivering such talks.
2. Money - Blogging is much more than money. Very few people actually look to make money from &quot;blogs&quot; . No offense to any one, but most of the blogs that claim to have great readership and are making money are not really blogs, more like journalists. Blogs which talk, discuss and put forth views on a specific topics will generally not have advertisements or any revenue models with them (Dhananjay&#039;s tech blog for example). So please dont focus on how I can make money from my blog topics. thats not objective for most &quot;bloggers&quot; .
3. What I was looking for was topics which can help me in improving my writing skills. Like Navin mentioned get a editor to make sure simple mistakes are avoided etc. Things like this are more important, at least for me.
4. Too basic - I understand that there are always new people coming to blogging, but lets at least judge the audience interests and expertise before making assumptions that everyone wants to hear about same things again and again and again. All we need to do is put up a good page together on wiki about previous camp, put up all sessions,presentations there. If speaker wants he/she can put up some gist for newbies to get started with.

Bottomline is Blogcamp 2 should be &quot;Blog&quot; &quot;Camp&quot; and most importantly &quot;2&quot;. It should not be blogcamp1 repeat telecast!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Few thoughts -</p>
<p>1. People are using blog/bar camps as a way of branding themselves or there companies. This dilutes the content. Having attended camps in multiple cities I see this happening all the time. Speakers are speaking just too much about themselves or their blogs/companies rather than focusing on topic. Eg &#8211; Sandy&#8217;s talk was excellent, rich in content, at least perception I get from twitter streams about it. Focus should be on delivering such talks.<br />
2. Money &#8211; Blogging is much more than money. Very few people actually look to make money from &#8220;blogs&#8221; . No offense to any one, but most of the blogs that claim to have great readership and are making money are not really blogs, more like journalists. Blogs which talk, discuss and put forth views on a specific topics will generally not have advertisements or any revenue models with them (Dhananjay&#8217;s tech blog for example). So please dont focus on how I can make money from my blog topics. thats not objective for most &#8220;bloggers&#8221; .<br />
3. What I was looking for was topics which can help me in improving my writing skills. Like Navin mentioned get a editor to make sure simple mistakes are avoided etc. Things like this are more important, at least for me.<br />
4. Too basic &#8211; I understand that there are always new people coming to blogging, but lets at least judge the audience interests and expertise before making assumptions that everyone wants to hear about same things again and again and again. All we need to do is put up a good page together on wiki about previous camp, put up all sessions,presentations there. If speaker wants he/she can put up some gist for newbies to get started with.</p>
<p>Bottomline is Blogcamp 2 should be &#8220;Blog&#8221; &#8220;Camp&#8221; and most importantly &#8220;2&#8243;. It should not be blogcamp1 repeat telecast!</p>
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		<title>By: Dhananjay Nene</title>
		<link>http://dhananjay.nene.in/2009/06/why-i-was-disappointed-with-pune-blogcamp-2/comment-page-1/#comment-422</link>
		<dc:creator>Dhananjay Nene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bhavya,

Couple of quick comments on your comment :

a) It was my assessment that a large proportion of the audience was looking for figuring out how to become better bloggers and probably would&#039;ve been keen listeners to your talk. Just that those interested on the SEO/pageviews stuff were far more keenly asking questions. I think one of the assumptions of a open spaces is likely to be the fact that everyone is roughly similarly capable, articulate and assertive. If this assumption about the audience is not going to be true then the more articulate will always be able to far more substantially influence the proceedings. Thats a thought, lot of us should keep in mind. 

b) I don&#039;t agree that blogcamp falls under the category of unconference and thus everything is OK and right - since I pointed out that at least as per my reading the four rules of open spaces DO NOT apply apply to barcamps and thus the unorganisers should have both the latitude and responsibility to attempt to make sure that things end up being OK and Right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bhavya,</p>
<p>Couple of quick comments on your comment :</p>
<p>a) It was my assessment that a large proportion of the audience was looking for figuring out how to become better bloggers and probably would&#8217;ve been keen listeners to your talk. Just that those interested on the SEO/pageviews stuff were far more keenly asking questions. I think one of the assumptions of a open spaces is likely to be the fact that everyone is roughly similarly capable, articulate and assertive. If this assumption about the audience is not going to be true then the more articulate will always be able to far more substantially influence the proceedings. Thats a thought, lot of us should keep in mind. </p>
<p>b) I don&#8217;t agree that blogcamp falls under the category of unconference and thus everything is OK and right &#8211; since I pointed out that at least as per my reading the four rules of open spaces DO NOT apply apply to barcamps and thus the unorganisers should have both the latitude and responsibility to attempt to make sure that things end up being OK and Right.</p>
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		<title>By: Bhavya</title>
		<link>http://dhananjay.nene.in/2009/06/why-i-was-disappointed-with-pune-blogcamp-2/comment-page-1/#comment-421</link>
		<dc:creator>Bhavya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a un-organizer for this Blog Camp, having said that I too share the same thoughts as of urs.
Every Blogcamp and barcamp I have attended had given me some satisfaction 
but this fails to fall in this category.

I had prepared for a presentation which was supposed to talk abt what a blog magnetizes apart from money.. but looking at the kind of audience and talks going on… I was not motivated.

I think many things went wrong:
1. Venue – Should have been more spacious
2. Talks – Timeout banner was missing
3. Speakers – were not speaking for the audience but were speaking abt themselves

Sad  but the fact is BlogCamp falls under the category of Un-Conference and thus everything is OK and Right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a un-organizer for this Blog Camp, having said that I too share the same thoughts as of urs.<br />
Every Blogcamp and barcamp I have attended had given me some satisfaction<br />
but this fails to fall in this category.</p>
<p>I had prepared for a presentation which was supposed to talk abt what a blog magnetizes apart from money.. but looking at the kind of audience and talks going on… I was not motivated.</p>
<p>I think many things went wrong:<br />
1. Venue – Should have been more spacious<br />
2. Talks – Timeout banner was missing<br />
3. Speakers – were not speaking for the audience but were speaking abt themselves</p>
<p>Sad  but the fact is BlogCamp falls under the category of Un-Conference and thus everything is OK and Right.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikhil Kumar Verma</title>
		<link>http://dhananjay.nene.in/2009/06/why-i-was-disappointed-with-pune-blogcamp-2/comment-page-1/#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikhil Kumar Verma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:04:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put. Looking forward to the next organised BarCamp implementing the very things you have suggested here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put. Looking forward to the next organised BarCamp implementing the very things you have suggested here.</p>
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